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Title: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 18 April, 2017, 19:16:42
The EKO will take place at the EJC in Lublin, Poland this year. The main event will take place on Friday 28.7. (10:00-18:00) & Saturday 29.7. (12:00-17:00) in the FahrAwaY circus tent (and will be open to the public from the city. The main event will be supported by games, competitions, JKA gradings (The Void) and fun during the whole EJC week so make sure to plan your vacations accordingly!

The new EKO website (created and administered by kendama.cz) is live! http://kendama-open.eu/ - check it out and please, register - it will help us plan the EKO. You can change it later if needed, no worries :)
Instagram: @europeankendamaopen
Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/1659336134362608/
Info on the EJC: http://ejc2017.org/
EJC tickets: http://ejc2017.org/en/tickets/
EKO merch (available only until the end of August): https://shop.spreadshirt.com/MephobiaDesigns/ - t-shirts, hoodies, water bottles, mugs, mouse pads, bandanas, you name it. We have it! First choose the logo color, then choose the thing you want, than the color. While you're filling your shopping cart with EKO stuff, also check out other awesome stuff that is nowhere else to be found!

Tricklist videos:

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Division for players who have started playing in May / June / July 2017

Beginners
https://youtu.be/UXaB1ZgcE_Y

Intermediate
https://youtu.be/1ndd8DtrWYs

Advanced
https://youtu.be/_2u0GQ5juUc

Pro
https://youtu.be/A15jJCPqIpI

There's a price on Rob's head again, thanks to the BKA!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZLFwnb7UH55PcM73sY3H80WGxKw0NaPGaA-H76u9JYYnxyFEQUIiuq-OmJJXq1RfLOwhWQUMgsPVSo8a9bgfNYI-ZJUkwumSFJHPXTqMZo46PAmOIhhmZoRz3t_R8_Ml0O8A=w622-h947-no)

European Cup (Gloken-style)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DqhELsnqcYNwsRtCBl3wzjTUesc_82xXgKLrVvxULH1K2TIqlIzDOdU9-9AnDElHR9EcBJ_o0dSqWHhsJY4N0_DRNw91BF5Hdj9_6BW-mIK_DgbJZ_ba4mUFKH5onzatq9vOJg=w1395-h930-no)

LEVEL 1
https://youtu.be/Z1TqCcv5-sE
* - double swirl - any direction is acceptable

LEVEL 2
https://youtu.be/F9KTP9A-DWc

LEVEL 3
https://youtu.be/eiqObzBYybM

LEVEL 4
https://youtu.be/oLCn9SazoT0

LEVEL 5
https://youtu.be/kN9xdBnbhXI

LEVEL 6
https://youtu.be/TM_hfGKX_g8

LEVEL 7
https://youtu.be/jkhBYnpiPVg

LEVEL 8
https://youtu.be/vN_Q2wHY2v0

LEVEL 9
https://youtu.be/9jpejgRVgfs

LEVEL10
https://youtu.be/xvbskuuphfA
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Complete and unabridged results are here!

PRO (+x points for tricks hit by both players in respective rounds)
1. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK) – 12+1 pts – EKO Champion and European Kendama Champion
2. Kamil Panek (PL) – 9+2 pts
3. Rob Henman (GB) – 7 pts
4. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 7 pts
5–6. Aku Helenius (FI) – 4 pts
5–6. Florian Bord (FR) – 4 pts
7. Yi-Chuan Chen (Screw) (TW) – 3+1 pts
8. Markus Lander (DK) – 3 pts
9–11. Filip Vlašic (CZ) – 2 pts
9–11. Marcin Dziopa (PL) – 2 pts
9–11. Olaf Jaszczuk (DE) – 2 pts
12–13. Akira Tajima (JP) – 1+1 pt
12–13. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 1+1 pt
14–15. Eelco Soesman (NL) – 1 pt
14–15. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 1 pt
16–18. Daniel Lambert (Mendo) (IE) – 0 pts
16–18. Clément Bages (FR) – 0 pts
16–18. Romain Simonet (FR)– 0 pts
judge: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK)

Advanced
1. Jakub Kania (PL)
2. Tomáš Zahradík (CZ)
3. Adam Olekszyk (PL)

Intermediate
1. Sebastian Boronski (PL)
2. Sébastien Mejia (FR)
3. Christof Haller (CH)

Beginners
1. Ines Jankowska (PL)
2. Jack Roberts (GB)
3. Laurent Marques (Lolo) (FR)
4. Cédric Foucault (FR)
5–7. Laura Sautois (FR)
5–7. Im Almonius (FI)
5–7. Guilia Vaccaro (DE)



European Cup (1st / 2nd round score)
1. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK) – 58/526 pts
2. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 15/379 pts
3. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 20/257 pts
4. Markus Lander (DK) – 24/236 pts
5. Rob Henman (GB) – 14/186 pts
6. Olaf Jaszczuk (DE) – 19/185 pts
7. Marcin Dziopa (PL) – 14/161 pts
8. Akira Tajima (JP) – 24/125 pts
9–10. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 7/- pts
9–10. Filip Vlašic (CZ) – 7/- pts
11. Kamil Panek (PL) – 6/- pts
12. Eelco Soesman (NL) – 4/- pts
13. Tomáš Zahradík (CZ) – 3/- pts
14. Adam Olekszyk (PL) – 1/- pt
judge: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK)
right-hand men: Theo Baunsgaard (DK), Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK)




Freestyle
1. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK)
2. Theo Baunsgaard (DK)
3–4. Akira Tajima (JP)
3–4. Yi-Chuan Chen (Screw) (TW)
judges: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK), Filip Vlašic (CZ), The Void (GB)



7-to-Spike
Heat 1:
1. Kamil Panek (PL) – 7 pts
2. Markus Lander (DK) – 5 pts
3. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 3 pts
4–5. Marcin Dziopa (PL) – 2 pts
4–5. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK) – 2 pts
6–7. Olaf Jaszczuk (PL/DE) – 1 pt
6–7. The Void (GB) – 1 pt
8. Adam Olekszyk (PL) – 0 pt

Heat 2:
1. Akira Tajima (JP) – 7 pts
2. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 4 pts
3. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 3 pts
4. Daniel Lambert (Mendo) (IE) – 2 pts
5. Tomáš Zahradík (CZ)– 1 pt
6–7. Aku Helenius (FI) – 0 pts
6–7. Kalle Helenius (FI) – 0 pts

Finals:
1. Akira Tajima (JP) – 7 pts
2–3. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 6 pts
2–3. Markus Lander (DK) – 6 pts
4. Kamil Panek (PL) – 5 pts
5. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 3 pts
6. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 0 pts

judges: Rob Henman (GB), Filip Vlašic (CZ), Eelco Soesman (NL)
score keeper: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK)




MC for all occasions: John Maico Piezas-Simm (GB)

The EKO was sponsored by:
Platinum level: Kendama.cz, Royal Kendama, Sunrise Kendama
Gold level: GLOKEN, Kendama China, Kendama USA, Krom Kendama, Nativ Kendama, What Kendama, Zoot Kendamas
Silver: British Kendama Association, Kendama.pl, Mr. Sourmash, Project ARK
Bronze: MC2

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 18 April, 2017, 20:45:59
Great to hear. Thanks EKO team!
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 20 April, 2017, 18:07:23
Yay!
Will definitely be there
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 20 April, 2017, 19:46:44
It's an odd year, so I'll probably miss this one. Have fun!

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 21 April, 2017, 09:29:54
Tricklists are out!

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Division for players who have started playing in May / June / July 2017

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(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17951728_1749164991777152_1365540464620354394_n.png?oh=88972063ad59586b39ce1a82f551766c&oe=59FA51C6)

(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18057719_1749164988443819_6232254965349273863_n.png?oh=ccc7213f5aafc95e9f8bc72a3ee80bf5&oe=59F3CCC0)

Beginners, Intermediate and Advanced will be Speedtrick divisions. A small group of players lines up and attempts the tricks one by one. Once a trick is landed successfully, the player can go to the next trick. The fastest player in the group goes on to the next round.


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Players compete 1-on-1 in a knockout fashion. A random trick is drawn. Each player than has one chance to land it. If only one player succeeds, he gets a point. If both/neither succeed, nobody gets a point. If no points are awarded after each player has had three tries, a new trick is drawn. First player to get 2 points (3 points in the semifinals / 5 points in the finals) moves to the next round.

Tricks 1-21 will be used from round 1 up to quarterfinals
Tricks 19-27 will be used for semifinals and finals
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 21 April, 2017, 10:05:07
Ouch! Tough list!
Will there be a video as I am unsure on the wording of many of these?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 21 April, 2017, 10:45:28
Ouch! Tough list!
Will there be a video as I am unsure on the wording of many of these?
Damn, how come you can see them? I just see broken image links, and get 403 Forbidden when I try to go to the site, or view the images in a different tab. *confused*
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 21 April, 2017, 11:44:21
Facebook Link
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 21 April, 2017, 12:10:26
Facebook Link
Ah, well, if you're going to cheat, and use your brain.... :-/
I've added them to the first post.

Cripes. Last year's hit rate was 40%. Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 21 April, 2017, 12:21:41
I'm going to comment here instead of facebook since it is going to be slightly long.

I see this trend on other competitions and is something I think will hard the Kendama community on the long run, and I'm talking about the beginners division.

It is ok to keep pushing the bar further on Pro, and Advanced, I think Intermediate and beginners should not push the bar, they are meant for people to get into Kendama, they are meant for people that are starting (beginners) and for people that starts the difficulty of the tricks should not be raised, otherwise it means that being a beginner now is way harder than being a beginner 3-5 years ago. That's not fair, that demotivates players and scares potential people to join and try.

I think beginners should contain tricks that you can land in your first days of practice (big difference between landing a lighthouse once and landing one in three) so a new player can feel that most of the tricks can be landed and with practice, they could be landed with enough consistency.

That's why I think a ladder is the best way for beginners and not a speed trick list. You keep going up the ladder until you miss. Fine, if there's a trick you can't land yet, that's where you stop.

On a speed trick ladder, if there's a trick you can't land, you get stuck there. That happened to me on Advanced a few years ago, I could land all the tricks with reasonable consistency except one, that trick alone could take me 10 minutes. Obviously I did not joined that division. Now put yourself on the shoes of a beginner that can't do a downspike. It is a trick that took me a while to get along with. On a ladder, that's fine, on a speed trick list, that's another story.

Mind you, falling down is a 3-in-10 trick for 1st Dan. Are we expecting beginners to be of the level of a 1st Dan now? I think we should aim at Kyu 1 level.

I think that in the heat of pushing the tricks and making it fun for the pros we're neglecting the people that is just starting.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, It is a question of priorities when designing an event. A speed trick list could be more fun for spectators but less fun to participate. Who are you designing the event for is the decision of the organizers. All I'm saying is that I have other priorities when designing events and trying to lay out my PoV here.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 21 April, 2017, 14:35:57
Ouch! Tough list!
Will there be a video as I am unsure on the wording of many of these?

Yes, there will be videos soon :)

Cripes. Last year's hit rate was 40%. Good luck everyone.

The difficulty is significantly higher compared to last year. The result of letting loose some of the rulez (by the Red Hand of Democracy). But last year's Czech Open was also significantly more difficult than EKO, and I think the success rate was not worse. We will see what happens.

@shalafi - you might be right about the beginners section being a bit too difficult for a complete beginner who picks up a dama at the EJC. And I have a tendency to agree with you. At the same time, it is 3 months before the EKO. Plenty of time to practice 9 tricks. I don't agree with your ladder/speedtrick distinction. Ladder, like you describe it, is completely merciless - you make one mistake, end of story. You got stuck in the speedtrick on a single trick - you would get eliminated in the ladder on the same trick - I don't see a difference. The speedtrick gives you the option of another try. Nobody forces you to a higher speed. Nice and easy most often does it.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 21 April, 2017, 15:49:46
@shalafi - you might be right about the beginners section being a bit too difficult for a complete beginner who picks up a dama at the EJC. And I have a tendency to agree with you. At the same time, it is 3 months before the EKO. Plenty of time to practice 9 tricks. I don't agree with your ladder/speedtrick distinction. Ladder, like you describe it, is completely merciless - you make one mistake, end of story. You got stuck in the speedtrick on a single trick - you would get eliminated in the ladder on the same trick - I don't see a difference. The speedtrick gives you the option of another try. Nobody forces you to a higher speed. Nice and easy most often does it.

As I said, that was just my opinion. I appreciate the thought you put into the reply.

While it is true that there is 3 months to EKO, it is usually the case that some people gets interested during EJC or, as it happens to me, there are jugglers that only play kendama every now and then and still may have fun entering a competition. This is what I've seen on the IKO for 3 years, but again, Ireland is quite a small sample.

On the ladder Vs. speed trick. I see your point on them being similar, but while on a ladder I know I can get to certain point and that's it, I need to complete the speed ladder for it to count.

The difference is, by the time I entered the EKO for the first time, I hadn't landed a single lighthouse, which was the last trick of beginners, but I entered anyway because I could do almost all the other tricks. If it was a speed trick list, I could not have completed it, not in 5 minutes, not in 10, not in 30, I knew that, and I would not have entered.

I'm not claiming that that is what happens to everyone, but there is a big difference when you know you can't land a certain trick. Yes, ladders are merciless, but speed trick lists require you to land all the tricks, they are more demanding.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: johndmc on 21 April, 2017, 21:31:28
As I'm able to make it to bko for the first time this year, I feel that I can relate to this.
When I first got a kendama, despite not being able to make it to bko I used the beginner trick list and the timescale to the comp as my practice goals. It was really fun.
Knowing that I could attend this year I was excited about seeing what the new lists would be, and felt like I might have a crack at the intermediate level, as I felt confident that I should be comfortable with what would be released for beginners.
When they were released I admit it got me a little disheartened as the jump up seemed quite steep for me. I am entering the beginner level this year, and can say that the speed ladder seems to be a great way to start.
A lot of people starting might be able to land tricks but not first time, so the chance to continue until you complete the list I think is less daunting than one go and you're out, especially after you put in practice and you have first time nerves etc.

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 22 April, 2017, 08:05:20
I guess it depends on each person. I feel better without the time pressure, but I can see how other people works better without the pressure of only a few tries.

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 22 April, 2017, 10:51:35
I can see arguments either way for ladder or speed. But I agree with shalafi about the level of tricks in Beginners. A beginner who has practised hard for three months isn't a beginner anymore! :-)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 22 April, 2017, 14:33:45
I can see all the points you are raising. At the same time, I feel the general status among the beginners (real or false) is that they are shy to compete - I see it at the Prague kendama battles all the time. That being said, we (hereinafter meaning "Maico, Dario and me", unless specified otherwise) believe that the chance of a random juggler picking up a dama at the EJC and actually WANTING to compete after fiddling with the thing for three days is very low. I have suggested a Noob/Rookie list of 6 tricks from the "starter pack", I was shut down. Maybe this issue will be reopened?

We also believe that since this is the EUROPEAN open, not a small local affair, people need to push themselves, and as @johndmc said, go for the closest more difficult thing compared to their skill level. If people are no longer beginners after going at it for three months, they can join a tougher division - all the better in my view - it will push them and get hyped. Not everybody, of course. Last point, if you travel to EJC with the aim to compete, you have plenty of time to ascertain your skill and practice accordingly.

Every coin has two sides, even @shalafi 's 2 cent piece ;)

For comparison, here are two tricklists for the joint 2017 Czech and Slovak Kendama Championships (I am not sure, but it will be 1 on 1 knock out in all divisions):

Kids of 10 years and below
1 Velký pohárek (Big cup)
2 Malý pohárek (Small cup)
3 Střední pohárek (Base cup)
4 Svíčka (Candle)
5 Letadlo (Airplane)
6 Napíchnutí (Spike)
7 Swing in
8 Okolo japonska (Around Japan)
9 Okolo světa (Around World)
10 Maják (Lighthouse)

Beginners
1 Swing to candle
2 Around prefecture
3 Orbit
4 Jumping stick
5 Falling
6 Slip on stick
7 Knee bounce to big cup
8 Flying top
9 Earth turn
10 Hanging spike
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 22 April, 2017, 15:08:37
About the beginners bring shy, what my experience shows is that two IKOs run within the Dublin circus festival got 10 and 12 players, only 2 of them in advanced. This year it was a standalone event, only 5 people showed up, all entered advanced.

The level of interest required for going to a Kendama event takes the non-engaged people out. I'm sure we saw a similar trend on the BKO and EKO when they stopped being part of the BJC and EJC.

If an event is inside a bigger juggler event we should facilitate the entry for beginners, on a standalone event you can push the bar higher.

Just my opinion based on my -limited- experience running events.

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 24 April, 2017, 17:16:05
That being said, we (hereinafter meaning "Maico, Dario and me", unless specified otherwise) believe that the chance of a random juggler picking up a dama at the EJC and actually WANTING to compete after fiddling with the thing for three days is very low.
Hmmm, I've run EKOs at EJCs and I see exactly this happening, especially if there's been a workshop. Jugglers are especially open to picking up a new skill-toy. If you look back at the Beginner divisions from EJCs, most are "newbies from the week". Here are a few people who did exactly that:
2010
Raul —> Later was Spanish Champion x3, ran 3 Irish Championships (so far)
Johnny > Later was European Champion
Marko -> Later was Finnish Champion, twice
2011
Petra -> Later was German Champion
...so maybe it's worth trying to attract the nervous noobs to compete?

Well, anyway, you've made your choice, okay, let's see how it goes, and I hope it goes well. :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 24 April, 2017, 18:32:01
Hmmm, I've run EKOs at EJCs and I see exactly this happening, especially if there's been a workshop. Jugglers are especially open to picking up a new skill-toy. If you look back at the Beginner divisions from EJCs, most are "newbies from the week". Here are a few people who did exactly that:
2010
Raul —> Later was Spanish Champion x3, ran 3 Irish Championships (so far)
Johnny > Later was European Champion
Marko -> Later was Finnish Champion, twice
2011
Petra -> Later was German Champion
...so maybe it's worth trying to attract the nervous noobs to compete?

Well, anyway, you've made your choice, okay, let's see how it goes, and I hope it goes well. :)
Thank you Void :) I think I will reopen this topic with the guys later. Since it seems that the Newbie section will be most relevant for people who first pick up playing kendama on site, this has time to deal with later. I have already proposed an easy short tricklist as well.

On another note, the NEW WEBSITE is going LIVE today!!! It already is, actually... Live, I mean... go check it out and register, it will help us a bunch (you can modify the details later). There are some glitches still, we are fixing them as we speak. :)
http://kendama-open.eu/
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 28 April, 2017, 12:52:15
Good website. Simple, but informative. Looking forwards to the trick videos, and definition of "EKO-allowed kendama".
Cheers.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 28 April, 2017, 13:11:58
Good website. Simple, but informative. Looking forwards to the trick videos, and definition of "EKO-allowed kendama".
Cheers.
I like it too. I think the countdown is a cool way to get people hyped :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 01 May, 2017, 13:18:04
Good website. Simple, but informative. Looking forwards to the trick videos, and definition of "EKO-allowed kendama".
Cheers.

I like it too. I think the countdown is a cool way to get people hyped :)

Glad you guys like it :) Videos out soon. The EKO-allowed damas will be "whatever fits in the box" :) What box? The EKO dama-checking box ;) More info on that soon.


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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 09 May, 2017, 17:19:42
The tricklist videos will be out in the next couple of days! :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 10 May, 2017, 11:19:31
BAM! Beginner tricklist video is out! Intermediate tomorrow ;)

http://youtu.be/UXaB1ZgcE_Y
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 11 May, 2017, 10:59:39
so how many people are going ?
i'm trying to fine a good way to get there, but its all very expensive
and it looks like the other dutchies are a no show again

are any of you guys staying on the site or in a hotel? 
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 11 May, 2017, 11:32:12
Finally confirmed I'm coming. I'll be in a hotel - don't know which one, someone's booking it for me.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 11 May, 2017, 11:35:20
Finally confirmed I'm coming.
Awesome! Are you practicing diligently? ;) Pro tricklist video should be out on Saturday.

are any of you guys staying on the site or in a hotel?

I am staying in a tent on site, like last year. Don't know how many people will show up... So far, only a handful have registered on the kendama-open.eu website.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 11 May, 2017, 11:54:30
No, the trick lists weren't released in time for my practice timescale, so I won't be entering.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 11 May, 2017, 12:31:27
I'm camping too (if bringing a tent is an issue, I have a 4-man), but will be arriving Monday
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 11 May, 2017, 12:41:26
so how many people are going ?
i'm trying to fine a good way to get there, but its all very expensive
and it looks like the other dutchies are a no show again

are any of you guys staying on the site or in a hotel? 

Is it expensive? I recall Poland and Lublin being quite cheap back when the last EJC was there.

Anyway, as it is an odd year, I won't be attending. I have my hopes for 2018, which is an even year :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 11 May, 2017, 12:43:55
Anyway, as it is an odd year, I won't be attending. I have my hopes for 2018, which is an even year :)

You were there in Leeds, that was an odd year as well.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 11 May, 2017, 13:09:04
Anyway, as it is an odd year, I won't be attending. I have my hopes for 2018, which is an even year :)

You were there in Leeds, that was an odd year as well.
Yes, that was the exception :) only because it was too close.

I have very limited time off lately :(
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 12 May, 2017, 12:02:55
Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced videos are up! Pro tomorrow :-)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 12 May, 2017, 13:44:47
Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced videos are up! Pro tomorrow :-)
As I mentioned on facebook, I really like how the tricks are executed and edited on this videos. They are excellent demo videos. Great work.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 12 May, 2017, 13:46:38
As I mentioned on facebook, I really like how the tricks are executed and edited on this videos. They are excellent demo videos. Great work.

Thank you for your kind words, we did our best :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 13 May, 2017, 15:25:33
Fanfare, please, the PRO tricklist video is now live! :)

https://youtu.be/A15jJCPqIpI
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 20 May, 2017, 14:52:15
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZLFwnb7UH55PcM73sY3H80WGxKw0NaPGaA-H76u9JYYnxyFEQUIiuq-OmJJXq1RfLOwhWQUMgsPVSo8a9bgfNYI-ZJUkwumSFJHPXTqMZo46PAmOIhhmZoRz3t_R8_Ml0O8A=w622-h947-no)

note to @Dimensions - the poster originally said "Wanted Dead or Dead" - thank Dario for making me change it :D
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 20 May, 2017, 16:03:14
^This made me laugh
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 20 May, 2017, 16:10:57
"...or persons"? How does that work?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 20 May, 2017, 16:13:03
Who knows. Double snipers?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 20 May, 2017, 17:05:57
"...or persons"? How does that work?

Up to you, really ;)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 14 June, 2017, 11:37:46
*DOUBLE POST ALERT*

1. Note that there are notes on 3 tricks in the pro division! Very important! The affected tricks are printed blue on kendama-open.eu and you will see the notes upon clicking on the respective trick.
2. European Cup (Gloken style; #gleko for short) tricklist is finally public! Should have been a great deal sooner, I know... :-/ Videos coming soon! Watch the EKO facebook page and kendama-open.eu - I will try to put the links here as well, but I may be lagging. If there are any questions, ask away. Note: LEVEL 1 does not necessarily mean beginner ;) We could only work with what people sent us...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DqhELsnqcYNwsRtCBl3wzjTUesc_82xXgKLrVvxULH1K2TIqlIzDOdU9-9AnDElHR9EcBJ_o0dSqWHhsJY4N0_DRNw91BF5Hdj9_6BW-mIK_DgbJZ_ba4mUFKH5onzatq9vOJg=w1395-h930-no)

EDIT: slight update of the tricklist - downspike down Earth turn moved from level 5 to level 2 in the exchange of reverse spacewalk swapspike
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 14 June, 2017, 12:18:07
@jakub.zahumensky Re "Allowed kendamas"... clarity please:
"In all divisions, you are free to use any kendama of your choice as long as it fits these dimension limits: ken height - maximum? 17 cm; sarado width? - maximum? 7.5 cm; base bugger me, really? cup maximum? internal?/external? diameter?- 4.5 cm. All JKA and BKA approved kendamas satisfy this neatly, as does a Mugen Musou."
Also, I assume that any size tama is permitted too? ^_^
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 14 June, 2017, 12:46:39
@jakub.zahumensky Re "Allowed kendamas"... clarity please:
"In all divisions, you are free to use any kendama of your choice as long as it fits these dimension limits: ken height - maximum? 17 cm; sarado width? - maximum? 7.5 cm; base bugger me, really? cup maximum? internal?/external? diameter?- 4.5 cm. All JKA and BKA approved kendamas satisfy this neatly, as does a Mugen Musou."
Also, I assume that any size tama is permitted too? ^_^

Yes, those are maximum dimensions (i.e. anything smaller than... people can use a mini as far as I am concerned). So yeah, ken no higher than 17 cm. Sarado not wider than 7.5 cm. Base cup external diameter (as measured in the widest part of the ken, technically, if we want to go nit-picking) no bigger than 4.5 cm (You may be surprised, but i have one dama with base cup bigger than big cup.). Tamas of any size is the current state of the matter.
Would "fit within these dimension limits" make it clearer that those are maximum dimensions? I thought it was quite clear from the description as it is.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 14 June, 2017, 20:41:24
I know you worked with the tricks you were sent, but the difficulty of the gloken style cup is quite higher than the one on the real gloken cup. Specially on the lower levels.

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 14 June, 2017, 22:15:48
I know you worked with the tricks you were sent, but the difficulty of the gloken style cup is quite higher than the one on the real gloken cup. Specially on the lower levels.

Well, you should have sent us some, then ;) Anyway, I am now watching the videos and yes, of course, our level 1 corresponds in difficulty to KWC level 3. BUT, KWC level 10 (not even the highest level, corresponding to EKO levels 8-9) is mental, definitely harder than EKO level 10. KWC level 4 corresponds to EKO levels 3-4, I find the difficulty more or less the same.
So yeah, for EKO levels 1-3 you're right, but then the tricks don't get as hard as at the KWC. Also consider that vast majority of the tricks came from European players, so it's not like some outside force is at play here - from European players for European players. Anyway, the beauty of this format is that everybody can pick the tricks they like.

PS for Void: I ruled the ken games at the Kendama Clash in Berlin last weekend with tap tornado lighthouses and candle downspikes :D Neat tricks, both of them, thank you for introducing them to me (one way or another - outlink or outlink, right?) - Cooper Eddy got a letter on each :D. And of course the forearm bounces, hehe
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 15 June, 2017, 14:59:54
PS for Void: I ruled the ken games at the Kendama Clash in Berlin last weekend with tap tornado lighthouses and candle downspikes :D Neat tricks, both of them, thank you for introducing them to me (one way or another - outlink or outlink, right?) - Cooper Eddy got a letter on each :D. And of course the forearm bounces, hehe
Well done, and congrats. Candle>Fast Hand Stab was set by Yoda in the Endless Combo waaaaay back. No idea if I'd done it earlier or not. Glad you like the Tap Tornado LH, and that it foxed people.

And good luck with your Biggest Kendama competition.
 :'(
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 16 June, 2017, 07:39:57
And good luck with your Biggest Kendama competition.
 :'(

Thanks Void :) Why the sad face?

ANYWHOOOO, European Cup level 1 video is pubic! LEVEL 2 tomorrow!
https://youtu.be/Z1TqCcv5-sE
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 16 June, 2017, 10:45:15
Marcel does a Reverse 2-Swirl Aeroplane in the video. I suppose that means either is acceptable?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 16 June, 2017, 11:19:35
Marcel does a Reverse 2-Swirl Aeroplane in the video. I suppose that means either is acceptable?

Yes, he does. And you suppose correctly. In his original video file, he said double, nothing about direction. I think he always goes reverse for some reason.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 20 June, 2017, 12:23:27
LEVEL 2
https://youtu.be/F9KTP9A-DWc

and

LEVEL 3
https://youtu.be/eiqObzBYybM

Full tricklist now also on kendama-open.eu
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 20 June, 2017, 12:28:32
Tagging some Poles from the member map. Hey guys, you know EKO's in Poland (http://kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3008.0.html) again this year?
@Yoda @Gaxda @Smok @awit @Kapi @mimlemium @blady
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Kapi on 20 June, 2017, 15:48:31
Yes, but the price is too much. How come it is in Poland anyway?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 20 June, 2017, 16:05:40
Yes, but the price is too much. How come it is in Poland anyway?

Because we have decided to make it as a part of the EJC (ejc2017.org) again this year. For next year, *SPOILER ALERT* Barcelona seems to be getting momentum as a viable option. Will that be any cheaper? ;)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 20 June, 2017, 20:05:13


Barcelona seems to be getting momentum as a viable option. Will that be any cheaper? ;)
LOL I hope that's a rethoric question... BCN is a beautiful city, but freaking expensive.


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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 20 June, 2017, 20:24:38
LOL I hope that's a rethoric question... BCN is a beautiful city, but freaking expensive.

I was trying to make a point. Seems all we are hearing from Polish players is that it's expensive to go to the EKO this year. The thing is, this is the cheapest possibility for them to go to the EKO. Ever.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 20 June, 2017, 20:53:33
LOL I hope that's a rethoric question... BCN is a beautiful city, but freaking expensive.

I was trying to make a point. Seems all we are hearing from Polish players is that it's expensive to go to the EKO this year. The thing is, this is the cheapest possibility for them to go to the EKO. Ever.
I agree that it can't be much cheaper than that.

For a second I thought you were serious ;-)

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 20 June, 2017, 21:25:12
For a second I thought you were serious ;-)

I wasn't neither serious nor joking. It was a legitimate question for @Kapi and other Polish players.

Also, when I say Barcelona, I don't necessarily mean Las Ramblas, por supuesto ;) I am thinking more about a facility in reasonable vicinity where we could have the camp and then make a day trip to Barcelona, for example. And have the event somewhere on the edge of the city.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 21 June, 2017, 21:55:06
European Cup Level 4, Ladies and Gentlemen ;)

https://youtu.be/oLCn9SazoT0
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 26 June, 2017, 14:27:44
LEVEL 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN9xdBnbhXI

and LEVEL 6
https://youtu.be/TM_hfGKX_g8
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 27 June, 2017, 12:51:05
LEVEL 7
https://youtu.be/jkhBYnpiPVg
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 27 June, 2017, 14:19:04
Wow, you put CCR at L7! I thought it would be much lower. I know it's hard for some people, but for people who can do it, it's now an easy 7-pointer.
Oh, no, wait, scratch that...[1] I just realised I submitted it at L6, and it has the "in" on the end as well. Yeah, that makes it a fair bit trickier to be consistent with. :)
 1. Think before you type, Void!
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 27 June, 2017, 14:21:02
Or is the rule that you have to do the trick with a black cat walking behind you?  ;D
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 27 June, 2017, 14:30:36
Or is the rule that you have to do the trick with a black cat walking behind you?  ;D

Any cat will do ;)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 29 June, 2017, 14:42:48
LEVEL 8
https://youtu.be/vN_Q2wHY2v0

level 9 should be out tomorrow :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 29 June, 2017, 19:43:38
LEVEL 9
https://youtu.be/9jpejgRVgfs

Well, I guess I lied...  8)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 01 July, 2017, 11:15:45
The last tricklist video is OUT THERE Y'ALL!!! :D Get practicing, get hyped, tell your friends to come join the fun, compete and win a TON of prizes from our awesome sponsors (which reminds me I need to update the list in the initial post :))!!! This is gonna by so great! Can't wait!

https://youtu.be/xvbskuuphfA
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 01 July, 2017, 12:44:06
Would it be too annoying if I wondered why the Level 10 video didn't have a "Lv. 10" banner in the top left corner, like all the other levels had?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 01 July, 2017, 12:47:46
Would it be too annoying if I wondered why the Level 10 video didn't have a "Lv. 10" banner in the top left corner, like all the other levels had?

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH, well, probably because @Doppia_D89 forgot :D hm....
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 01 July, 2017, 17:08:38
Would it be too annoying if I wondered why the Level 10 video didn't have a "Lv. 10" banner in the top left corner, like all the other levels had?

fixed :) cheers
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 01 July, 2017, 17:57:54
Nice one.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 July, 2017, 13:15:28
Yay, Akira's coming! @akira tajima
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 04 July, 2017, 13:27:54
Yay, Akira's coming! @akira tajima

Awesome! :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 04 July, 2017, 13:35:27
yes i was just going to ask
Are there any japanese players (Dan examinators ) comming this year>?? 
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 July, 2017, 13:41:39
I will be doing JKA exams at some point. I heard the JKA will not be sending anyone this year. I don't know if Tajima-san is coming "as JKA", or just as himself.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 04 July, 2017, 21:05:18
I will be doing JKA exams at some point. I heard the JKA will not be sending anyone this year. I don't know if Tajima-san is coming "as JKA", or just as himself.
Oh, right, you can do JKA exams now. Have to meet and do an exam one of these days.

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 05 July, 2017, 11:49:03
 :o
Big Big question mark floating above my head right now
why won''t JKA send a examinator the the EKO ??

but yeah  :( ... too bad
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 05 July, 2017, 21:13:27
:o
Big Big question mark floating above my head right now
why won''t JKA send a examinator the the EKO ??

but yeah  :( ... too bad

I don't know, they haven't replied to my email and Yoko told me they had decided not to come some time in the past. I don't know any details.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 06 July, 2017, 14:16:29
bummer dude
is there anyway i could get in contact with Akira-san?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 06 July, 2017, 14:43:15
DM him on the forum. http://kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=795
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 11 July, 2017, 13:42:27
thx man !
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 11 July, 2017, 14:10:54
Hey guys! The EKO is upon us! YAY! We are looking for people to help judge:
- beginners, intermediate and advanced (4-5 judges each, one per contestant on stage)
- pro (1-2 judges)
- freestyle (3 judges)
- 7-to-spike (3 judges)
- European Cup (3-4 judges).

Who's up for it? :)

Judges will rotate, so don't worry about spending the whole day in the chair :) If you want to judge more than one event, you are more than welcome and we will more than grateful :)

@s070s @Dimensions
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 11 July, 2017, 15:09:17
I'll be up to Judge 7-to-spike
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 11 July, 2017, 15:16:20
I'll be up to Judge 7-to-spike

Cheers Rob :) We will of course try to get more judges, so that everybody can play
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 13 July, 2017, 15:36:02
If you haven't heard, here goes:
The main event will take place on Friday 28.7. (10:00-18:00) & Saturday 29.7. (12:00-17:00) in the FahrAwaY circus tent which will be open to the public from the city. YAY EJC!

Also, don't miss out on the Highline festival that will take place in Lublin at the same time as the EJC! Admission for EJC participants for 60 zloty.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 13 July, 2017, 16:12:12
10am? Harsh! :-)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 14 July, 2017, 11:05:31
'I'll be up to Judge 7-to-spike'
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 14 July, 2017, 11:09:13
but anyway
did no one else did a DAN exam last year ?
that there are not willing to come this year. ...?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 14 July, 2017, 11:37:52
'I'll be up to Judge 7-to-spike'

Great thank you! :)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 14 July, 2017, 22:07:52
but anyway
did no one else did a DAN exam last year ?
that there are not willing to come this year. ...?
I did and failed :-/
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 15 July, 2017, 10:21:51
At leased you tried something with them
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 17 July, 2017, 10:26:26
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20106615_1857921927568124_7736877371921825787_n.png?oh=2d71f44396115365073bddb4bebb79c1&oe=5A0B92BB)
Division for players who have started playing in May / June / July 2017
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 17 July, 2017, 10:37:49
Curious ordering, but *Like*!
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 17 July, 2017, 10:39:12
Curious ordering, but *Like*!

Do you mean ordering within the tricklist? What order would you have used? I wanted to go from easiest to hardest, with a spike at the end.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 17 July, 2017, 11:24:59
I wanted to go from easiest to hardest, with a spike at the end.
That's a contradiction. :)
BC
Candle
Spike
Aeroplane
Moshi x 4
Lighthouse
Tricky to know where to place the Moshi, but the others are in standard Kyu order.
Is this a Ladder, or a Speed List?
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 17 July, 2017, 11:29:27
I wanted to go from easiest to hardest, with a spike at the end.
That's a contradiction. :)
BC
Candle
Spike
Aeroplane
Moshi x 4
Lighthouse
Tricky to know where to place the Moshi, but the others are in standard Kyu order.
Is this a Ladder, or a Speed List?

life is full of paradoxes ;) it is a speedtrick - I like the idea that you get a second chance when you mess up
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 17 July, 2017, 11:37:01
If it's a Speed List, I guess the order doesn't matter so much. Cool.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 17 July, 2017, 19:07:08
As I'm arriving on the Monday, will it be possible to try and save any camp space for me? (Assuming your all going to try and stay in the same spot)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 18 July, 2017, 10:48:09
As I'm arriving on the Monday, will it be possible to try and save any camp space for me? (Assuming your all going to try and stay in the same spot)

We can try. I think Mendo Frisks will be among the first to arrive on Saturday.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: Dimensions on 18 July, 2017, 13:24:26
That would be great! Thanks

but of course, no need to stress if it isn't possible
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 21 July, 2017, 16:03:25
but anyway
did no one else did a DAN exam last year ?
that there are not willing to come this year. ...?
I realised that the Kendama World Cup is this weekend, just 5 days sooner than the EKO, so that may explain their absence.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 24 July, 2017, 21:01:35
Gradings!
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 25 July, 2017, 08:45:46
Akira will be arriving on Thursday morning. :-)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 28 July, 2017, 07:33:03
Small SATURDAY schedule adjustment: The EU cup will be held 10:00-14:00 instead of the planned 12:00-17:00. Please, be punctual, as we have to be done by 14:00. They put on an extra show that starts at 15:00.

I am really sorry about this, I was looking forward to getting more sleep on Saturday as well...

Jakub
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 28 July, 2017, 09:08:04
Royal Kendama will livestream some of the EKO.

Keep your eyes on our Twitter for links when we go live. (If anyone can repost them here when they see them, that would be great, thanks!)

http://bambuser.com/channel/RoyalKendama
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 28 July, 2017, 09:24:42
Royal Kendama will livestream some of the EKO.

Keep your eyes on our Twitter for links when we go live. (If anyone can repost them here when they see them, that would be great, thanks!)

http://bambuser.com/channel/RoyalKendama
I'll try to keep an eye on them. Thanks!
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 28 July, 2017, 17:49:52
PRO:
1 Rolf
2 Kamil
3 Rob
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: shalafi on 28 July, 2017, 18:36:17
Thanks for the quick update

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Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 28 July, 2017, 18:50:53

@Dimensions
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 29 July, 2017, 19:47:03
7 To Spike
Akira

European Cup
1 Rolf
2 Albert
3 Theo

Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 30 July, 2017, 07:08:42
Good morning everyone! Big shoutout to everyone who came and participated! You guys made all the work worth the effort! Also big thanks to everyone who helped judge, clarify things and carried benches from and back to Renegade :) I personally think we had a good group with a chill and family-like atmosphere overall and I liked it a lot :) See you all next year!
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: s070s on 02 August, 2017, 11:39:17
"hello ....?? 'bump bump' ... is this thing on ? .... am i still dreaming >?.....omg 'what' happend ... is this the correct timezone? ...   ??? where am i ? .... oooooOOOOhhh that right .. KENDAMA !!!!!!

The head is almost functioning the right way. AFTER THE BEST WEEK EVER !!!!!
so much happend, met so many new and inspiring people  and so many buddy's from the dama-travels
The community of the europeans players is in my opining one of the best and this year wasn't disappointing in the least. Just love the way we click together between the massive EJC crowd.
THANK YOU everyone who was there, i will never forget this year.
how we jammed together, how we maid the competitions, and how you guys are individually are as kendama-players and people to hang out with


THANK you ALL, i can only i'm so proud all of of you and glad i'm a part of it.


JAKUB, MAICO AND DARIO you did a great job !! DOMO ARIGATO !!!

 
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 August, 2017, 13:16:59
Beginners:
http://juggling.tv/16544
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 August, 2017, 13:26:07
Intermediate:
http://juggling.tv/16545
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 August, 2017, 13:35:38
Advanced:
http://juggling.tv/16546

@Niggy
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 August, 2017, 21:34:19
Pro, Round 1
@Screw vs @s070s
http://juggling.tv/16555
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 04 August, 2017, 22:24:17
Pro, Round 1
@Klemdama vs Feeeeeeeeel
http://juggling.tv/16556
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 05 August, 2017, 13:09:58
Pro, Round 2
Kamil v @akira tajima
http://juggling.tv/16559
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 05 August, 2017, 13:32:42
Pro, Round 2,
Marcin v Aku
http://juggling.tv/16560
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 05 August, 2017, 14:18:51
Pro, Round 2
Romain vs @Jokbert
http://juggling.tv/16561
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 05 August, 2017, 14:24:11
Pro, Round 2
Rolf vs @DanieLambert
http://juggling.tv/16562
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 05 August, 2017, 14:36:07
Pro, Round 2
@Dimensions vs @theobau
http://juggling.tv/16563
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 05 August, 2017, 15:42:14
Pro, Round 2
Markus vs Olaf
http://juggling.tv/16564
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 06 August, 2017, 12:04:34
Pro Round 2
Florian vs Feeeeeeel  :)
http://juggling.tv/16565
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 06 August, 2017, 13:24:07
Pro Round 2
@Screw vs @cello_91
http://juggling.tv/16566
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 06 August, 2017, 13:35:05
Complete and unabridged results are here!

PRO (+x points for tricks hit by both players in respective rounds)
1. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK) – 12+1 pts – EKO Champion and European Kendama Champion
2. Kamil Panek (PL) – 9+2 pts
3. Rob Henman (GB) – 7 pts
4. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 7 pts
5–6. Aku Helenius (FI) – 4 pts
5–6. Florian Bord (FR) – 4 pts
7. Yi-Chuan Chen (Screw) (TW) – 3+1 pts
8. Markus Lander (DK) – 3 pts
9–11. Filip Vlašic (CZ) – 2 pts
9–11. Marcin Dziopa (PL) – 2 pts
9–11. Olaf Jaszczuk (DE) – 2 pts
12–13. Akira Tajima (JP) – 1+1 pt
12–13. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 1+1 pt
14–15. Eelco Soesman (NL) – 1 pt
14–15. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 1 pt
16–18. Daniel Lambert (Mendo) (IE) – 0 pts
16–18. Clément Bages (FR) – 0 pts
16–18. Romain Simonet (FR)– 0 pts
judge: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK)

Advanced
1. Jakub Kania (PL)
2. Tomáš Zahradík (CZ)
3. Adam Olekszyk (PL)

Intermediate
1. Sebastian Boronski (PL)
2. Sébastien Mejia (FR)
3. Christof Haller (CH)

Beginners
1. Ines Jankowska (PL)
2. Jack Roberts (GB)
3. Laurent (Lolo) (FR)
4. Cédric (FR?)
5–7. Laura Sautois (FR)
5–7. Im Almonius (FI)
5–7. Guilia Vaccaro (DE)



European Cup (1st / 2nd round score)
1. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK) – 58/526 pts
2. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 15/379 pts
3. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 20/257 pts
4. Markus Lander (DK) – 24/236 pts
5. Rob Henman (GB) – 14/186 pts
6. Olaf Jaszczuk (DE) – 19/185 pts
7. Marcin Dziopa (PL) – 14/161 pts
8. Akira Tajima (JP) – 24/125 pts
9–10. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 7/- pts
9–10. Filip Vlašic (CZ) – 7/- pts
11. Kamil Panek (PL) – 6/- pts
12. Eelco Soesman (NL) – 4/- pts
13. Tomáš Zahradík (CZ) – 3/- pts
14. Adam Olekszyk (PL) – 1/- pt
judge: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK)
right-hand men: Theo Baunsgaard (DK), Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK)




Freestyle
1. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK)
2. Theo Baunsgaard (DK)
3–4. Akira Tajima (JP)
3–4. Yi-Chuan Chen (Screw) (TW)
judges: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK), Filip Vlašic (CZ), The Void (GB)



7-to-Spike
Heat 1:
1. Kamil Panek (PL) – 7 pts
2. Markus Lander (DK) – 5 pts
3. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 3 pts
4–5. Marcin Dziopa (PL) – 2 pts
4–5. Rolf Sandvig Ganer (DK) – 2 pts
6–7. Olaf Jaszczuk (PL/DE) – 1 pt
6–7. The Void (GB) – 1 pt
8. Adam Olekszyk (PL) – 0 pt

Heat 2:
1. Akira Tajima (JP) – 7 pts
2. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 4 pts
3. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 3 pts
4. Daniel Lambert (Mendo) (IE) – 2 pts
5. Tomáš Zahradík (CZ)– 1 pt
6–7. Aku Helenius (FI) – 0 pts
6–7. Kalle Helenius (FI) – 0 pts

Finals:
1. Akira Tajima (JP) – 7 pts
2–3. Albert J. Kirvesmäki (FI) – 6 pts
2–3. Markus Lander (DK) – 6 pts
4. Kamil Panek (PL) – 5 pts
5. Theo Baunsgaard (DK) – 3 pts
6. Marcel Chwoika (DE) – 0 pts

judges: Rob Henman (GB), Filip Vlašic (CZ), Eelco Soesman (NL)
score keeper: Jakub Zahumenský (SVK)




MC for all occasions: John Maico Piezas-Simm (GB)

The EKO was sponsored by:
Platinum level: Kendama.cz, Royal Kendama, Sunrise Kendama
Gold level: GLOKEN, Kendama China, Kendama USA, Krom Kendama, Nativ Kendama, What Kendama, Zoot Kendamas
Silver: British Kendama Association, Kendama.pl, Mr. Sourmash, Project ARK
Bronze: MC2

Don't forget to get your EKO apparel at: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/MephobiaDesigns/ - available only until the end of August.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 06 August, 2017, 13:45:58
Thanks for the full results!
(Woo, I got a point. :) )

Pro, QF
Florian vs @Jokbert
http://juggling.tv/16567
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 06 August, 2017, 13:49:18
Pro, QF
@Screw vs Rolf
http://juggling.tv/16568
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 06 August, 2017, 14:05:52
Pro, QF
Markus vs @Dimensions
http://juggling.tv/16569

Pro, QF
Aku vs Kamil
(No HD footage)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: jakub.zahumensky on 06 August, 2017, 14:06:56
Marcus vs @Dimensions
*Markus ;)
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 11:19:52
Pro, Semi Final,
@Jokbert vs Kamil
http://juggling.tv/16570
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 12:00:53
Pro, Semi Final,
Rolf vs @Dimensions
http://juggling.tv/16571
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 12:25:24
Pro, Playoff
@Jokbert vs @Dimensions
http://juggling.tv/16572
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 12:38:55
Pro, Final
Kamil vs Rolf
http://juggling.tv/16573
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 13:00:16
Freestyle, Quals, Pt 1
@cello_91
Kamil
Marcin
Markus
Rolf
Aku
Olaf
@Dimensions
@DanieLambert
http://juggling.tv/16574
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 13:21:09
Freestyle, Quals Pt2
@theobau
@Jokbert
@akira tajima
@Screw
Florian
Adam
Tomáš @Niggy
http://juggling.tv/16575
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 13:47:24
Freestyle - Semis & Final
@theobau
@Screw
Rolf
@akira tajima
http://juggling.tv/16576
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 15:05:25
Euro Cup, Qualifiers, Pt1
Olaf
@akira tajima
@theobau
Marcin
Rolf
Kamil
@cello_91
http://juggling.tv/16577
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 07 August, 2017, 15:48:10
Euro Cup, Qualifiers, Pt2
Tomáš @Niggy
@Dimensions
@Jokbert
Filip
@s070s
Markus
Adam
http://juggling.tv/16578
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 09 August, 2017, 18:38:10
Euro Cup, Finals Pt1
Marcin
@Dimensions
@Jokbert
Olaf
http://juggling.tv/16579
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 10 August, 2017, 00:18:14
Euro Cup, Finals Pt2
@theobau
Markus
@akira tajima
Rolf
http://juggling.tv/16580

That's the last of the vids from Royal Kendama. I have both heats of 7ToSpike, but they're both incomplete, and with dropouts. Hopefully @DanieLambert has the full 7ToSpike final in the can, and can post it when he has the chance.
Title: Re: European Kendama Open 2017
Post by: The Void on 16 August, 2017, 13:19:41
My pics from the trip are here:

***No re-uploads, please. Share page URLs, not images. Thanks. ***
Click for gallery.
(http://tlmb.net/galleries/EJC2017/thumbnails/s25.jpg) (http://tlmb.net/galleries/EJC2017/)
***No re-uploads, please. Share page URLs, not images. Thanks. ***

Anyone got any other pic links?

===

Thanks @jakub.zahumensky @Maicodama & @Doppia_D89 for taking on the EKO. I know how much work it is, and I appreciate all your time & effort.

Congrats to everyone who competed with a standard competition-sized kendama at the Enlarged Kendama Open - I was impressed by your skills.
Turn-out was slightly down. I think this is probably due to the same factor that is observed at EJCs: The "further from the middle" of Western Europe you are, the lower the turnout. Well, it's good to move the competition around Europe, so fair enough.
The option of having the venue open to the pubic sounded like a great idea. Unfortunately, it wasn't really in a spot where people would just wander past, so we didn't get many public spectators. Also, the fact that the venue was just outside of the EJC campus meant we didn't get many jugglers coming to watch either. An unfortunate combination of factors that was no-one's fault really. Oh well.
These factors also explained (I think) why there were no competitors in Noob division.
The Pro list was too hard.
Well done on the tough job of judging, @jakub.zahumensky . Yes, I questioned one of your judgements, but you explained your reasoning and I immediately accepted it. Consistency and clarity of judging is essential.
Well done on microphone enthusiasm @Maicodama . But I was sad to see the timekeeping lessons from BKO weren't learned. Every "5" minute break loses audience and energy. No time for Unicorns and Candle battles. Gerronwivit!  ;)

7 To Spike heats were too long. They should be to 4 or 5 points, not 7. The rule-tweak to stop the King getting easy points was good.
Glad I finally got to see a Kendama Cup format live. I think it worked well, and was fun to watch.

It was good to hang out with as many of the players as I could, and meet new people too. The fact that I was working for 7 of the 9 EJC days meant I didn't get to jam as much as would have liked with you all, or run more grading exams. Sorry for that, but at least I got to be there.

Sad to see once again that so many kendama players are stinking[1] drug addicts. Stupid, sad, and a terrible example. You deserve to die of lung cancer. I'm not joking[2]. All the more heartbreaking since you lot seem to otherwise be a great bunch of people.

@Mirek said to me that he thought the EKO should go to Romania next year. Seems like a good suggestion, as that seems to be where the most kendama players are right now. There'd be a good turnout, if nothing else!

Thank you to all the sponsors for your continued support of the EKO.

Clicks,
Void
 1. I use this word literally.
 2. I probably deserve to die of arrogance or judgementalism, but since they're not known killers, I probably won't.
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