Yoko Haneken

[The Void]

= rotor blade = ufo = sideways jumping stick.

Not diagonal jumping stick. You know who you are.

[Thorny]

Thank you, Void - they do know who they are! 

[MasterKatra42]

I was wondering what the real terminology for what I called a "UFO" was.  Is it really Yoko Haneken?  That's good info!

I do try hard to keep it on plane with the ground when I try this trick.  I can see how some people do not keep their yoko haneken up to standard.  While we're at it, have you ever tried a jumping stick with a twist?  I'm not sure if that has a name (it probably does) but it just involves turning your hand like a doorknob while making the motion for a regular haneken.

[The Void]

Hi Joe, yeah, that's it. http://kendama.co.uk/100tricks.html for a bit more info.

I'm not sure exactly what I made this post for... it's just something I'd noticed in a few videos[1], that the ufos were noticeably tilted upwards a bit. I guess "don't do that in competition[2]" is all I'm saying.

I'd never tried the doorknob jumping stick until just now. I thought it would be an ugly trick, but it's actually quite nice. We've established that a trick where the ken is rotating around its long axis[3] is called a Tornado, so I guess this is a Tornado Jumping Stick. (Although I'd be tempted to think of it as a Corkscrew JS....) Now go and get it on video before someone else does!

1.	No, I can't remember which ones, and without going and watching a squillion videos again, I actually don't know who you are!
2.	Or not one that I'm judging, at least!
3.	(....during a transition?)

[MasterKatra42]

Too late, Colin Sander strikes once again.  He throws down some tornado candle, tornado jumping stick and tornado lighthouse in Kendama USA edit 8.

I've heard people call tornado lunar a barrel roll.  Is that just personal terminology, or does that have anything to do with an actual named trick?

[BKA]

I would guess it's a term adopted from skating.

[AlexSmith]

I've heard people call tornado lunar a barrel roll.  Is that just personal terminology, or does that have anything to do with an actual named trick?

I've heard this too. The people I play with often call it a lunar kickflip too, seems like every group has slight variations with trick names.

Wanna get real tricky? Try a lunar 3 flip (name basically adapted from skateboarding). Lunar flip plus tornado.

[Cand1ez]

not that i can do it... but i see inverted lunar to lunar as a hardflip...  its just how i think of it.

half a kickflip and half a shove it.

my skate terminology may be off here tho...

as fround upon as it may be.  skating has some really good analogies for KD tricks

[Harrydh3]

i call it lunar barrel roll, Never heard 'tornado lunar' before this thread lol

[BKA]

Never heard 'tornado lunar' before this thread lol

...and yet you replied just 3 posts after this one: http://www.kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12.msg110.html#msg110

[MasterKatra42]

I was just practicing the Yoko Haneken tonight and some things were made clear.  Sometimes as I'm coming up with my knees to release, I push forward and the stick doesn't come out of the hole.  If I put a slight wrist flick with it, the ken exits cleanly.  This is really accentuated in doing an outward yoko haneken.  If you're having similar trouble, I would suggest adding a little wrist flick in the direction you want the ken to go.

What's the terminology for going the reverse direction?  Outward instead of inward.

[The Void]

I suppose it would be Ura Yoko Haneken, or Reverse UFO. (Ura=Reverse)

[the milky oolong]

On a similar note, is there a term for a Jumping Stick where the motion is left-right instead of up-down? Maybe this isn't clear enough - I mean, when the ken leaves the tama and 'cartwheels' before being caught again? Maybe it's just the same, but I tend to see people doing Jumping Stick with the plane of motion being vertical/longitudinal, if that's not stretching the description too far. I often practise this 'Cartwheel Jumping Stick' and find it has a nice aesthetic about it (excuse the kendama neologism of Cartwheel JS).

Any comments?

[bonzatron]

ive been calling that trick rainbow but i dont know the real terminology so dont quote me on that

[The Void]

If you mean the spin is in the line-of-the shoulders plane (to your side) instead of the through-the-spine-and-the-nose plane (in front of you), then it's still just a Jumping Stick. If you mean something else... Then sorry, but I don't understand. Video?