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Forum categories => Tricks => Topic started by: Greg the Strangler on 12 July, 2011, 23:58:10

Title: String Length
Post by: Greg the Strangler on 12 July, 2011, 23:58:10
How do people play their strings? The "2-finger" rule acts as a standard, bit I've chatted with many good players and some say they play it as long as it will go, and others who stay to the strict 2 fingers.

short string pros:
lest distance to waiver when pulling up lunars and stilts.
easier to keep tension during throw tricks.

long string pros:
more slack for double and triple rotation Jumping Sticks and UFO's.
more flexibility with Yo-yo-esqué tricks.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: The Void on 13 July, 2011, 11:48:51
I try not to be too strict about it, but if it's too short, it feels wrong. I generally stick to the two-finger rule, at least roughly. The string on my current click, my fluro Sunrise, is about 2.5 fingers. It feels slightly "different" at times, but not "wrong", so I haven't bothered changing it[nb]...yet?[/nb].
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Harrydh3 on 13 July, 2011, 13:13:20
As long as it can be.
if its too short it just makes it unplayable in my oppinion.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: The Void on 13 July, 2011, 13:24:05
Quote from: Greg the Strangler on 12 July, 2011, 23:58:10...some say they play it as long as it will go...
Quote from: Harrydh3 on 13 July, 2011, 13:13:20
As long as it can be.

Now, I assume you both mean "the maximum length possible using the string that came with it".

'cos I've attached a diabolo string to one of my Star Catches, and use it instead of diabolo handsticks! :)

I've seen Yusuke Ito (http://www.kendamashi.com/index_e.html) do a Tomeken from 2 stories up, with the ball just above ground floor level!
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: AlexSmith on 13 July, 2011, 18:49:09
Mine usually sit between two and three fingers in length, the difference is noticeable when pulling up lunars and stilts but you just need to get used to each different ken...
The only I really notice odd string lenghts, to the point where it affects play is when doing spacewalk handrolls. If the string is a weird length the ken wont end up on the back of my hand when rolling from ball -> ken.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Harrydh3 on 14 July, 2011, 11:13:56
its about 5 fingers on my Shinyu16 (shin fuji ball, yumu cups and tk16 spike)
its a little too short.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Looby on 18 July, 2011, 23:34:20
I go with floor to neck height as you can see in this vid from a few years ago :) Skip to 5:08

Webs, revs and a generally nice time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m26vmNcgHSk#)

But normally I go with the two finger method.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Cand1ez on 28 September, 2011, 00:14:57
What IS the fingers method?

And im not looking for birds and the bees advice.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: AlexSmith on 28 September, 2011, 00:57:02
Put the tama on the spike and then pull the string down towards bottom cup. The string should extend past base cup, & since your fingers are the most readily available measuring tool, see how many you can fit between the end of the string loop and bottom cup.

(hope that made sense)
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Cand1ez on 28 September, 2011, 12:33:17
Cheers.

in that case i use a 3 finger length on my only ken (ooz) and ive never changed the string.  so that must be factory length.
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: LarsVegas on 29 September, 2011, 19:36:44
Quote from: Cand1ez on 28 September, 2011, 12:33:17
in that case i use a 3 finger length on my only ken (ooz) and ive never changed the string.  so that must be factory length.

Maybe I've got fat fingers ... nah ... but I only get two fingers inbetween. I think I remember having seen an image somewhere that two fingers are recommended.

Re-reading Cand1ez posting: really three finger lengths? I'm talking about width ...

lars
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: The Void on 30 September, 2011, 16:43:59
Quote from: LarsVegas on 29 September, 2011, 19:36:44Re-reading Cand1ez posting: really three finger lengths? I'm talking about width ...

I'd love to see someone trying a Faster Than Gravity with a 3-finger length loop.  :)
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Buddhaprice on 04 January, 2012, 16:01:56
I am rather tall.... or so I assume cuz i usally have to look down to make eye contact with like 95 percent of the population.So I have experimented and took this reallly long string that came with my enjoi kendama and put it on my gold sunrise. I find possibly due to the length of my arms that it makes me alot more consistent even for tricks like lunars and stilts. I have even moved the string to one of my new tributes and still it feels way more comfortable than the typical two fingers rule i have on my oozoras. 
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: The Void on 04 January, 2012, 16:17:10
The JKA state "minimum 38cm", which I suppose is a tacit recognition that some people will prefer to play it longer.
Different strokes....
Title: Re: String Length
Post by: Winter Solstice Kendama on 28 February, 2012, 15:42:46
Quote from: Buddhaprice on 04 January, 2012, 16:01:56
I am rather tall.... or so I assume cuz i usally have to look down to make eye contact with like 95 percent of the population.So I have experimented and took this reallly long string that came with my enjoi kendama and put it on my gold sunrise. I find possibly due to the length of my arms that it makes me alot more consistent even for tricks like lunars and stilts. I have even moved the string to one of my new tributes and still it feels way more comfortable than the typical two fingers rule i have on my oozoras.

This. So very much so this.

If 38cm is the standard, does that mean length is subjectove beyond that?

-Curtis