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Forum categories => Tricks => Topic started by: shalafi on 04 November, 2013, 08:46:48

Title: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 04 November, 2013, 08:46:48
The idea of this trick come to mi mind yesterday, I don't remember having seen it in any edit and I wonder if it even has a better name.

The trick is as follows: you do a lighthouse -> falling down, but in the middle of the motion you switch your grip from the tama to the ken and perform a Downspike instead.

I think it will look really cool. I keep practicing it.
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: The Void on 04 November, 2013, 13:41:20
Lighthouse "-> Fast Hand Stab".

"Stab" is quicker to say, quicker to type, more original/true, and cooler than "Downspike". :-)
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 04 November, 2013, 19:57:02
Ok, that covers my first question.

The second question is. Is it in any edit? I don't remember seeing it.

I mean, I thought of the trick yesterday, and I was surprised that a trick that is "quite obvious" is not in any edit.

Well, I'll keep practicing and put it in my next edit :)
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: emagdnim on 04 November, 2013, 22:18:08
Great idea
Will try it tommorrow
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: The Void on 06 November, 2013, 02:28:44
I spent 5 minutes trying this tonight. I felt like there are 2 slightly differing ways of doing the grip change... which I can't put into words very well. Anyway, I didn't get it, but felt like I could.
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 08 November, 2013, 09:16:21
The trick, as I visualize it, makes the grip change once the spike is facing downwards.

I guess it may be easier to do a grip change at the beginning, the get the ken when the spike is facing upwards and turn it in the hand, but I think the other one is better looking.

Not sure if we are talking about the same thing.
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: The Void on 08 November, 2013, 12:32:19
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking - "early" or "late" grabs. It seemed more subtle when I was trying, but... yeah.
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: emagdnim on 10 November, 2013, 21:58:14
Havend got it yet. Cool trick but harder than you think.
I tossed the tamma up and spiked it horizontale. 
That one got me excided to keep on trying.
Really want to lurn this one
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 11 November, 2013, 09:54:04
I have not landed it yet, but I am a terrible player :)
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: Cliffdama on 11 November, 2013, 22:52:37
This is close to impossible for me atm i come to grab the ken and try to stab but the tama is allready way to far down to catch up with it. Any tips to help with this? If i try to trow the ken up higher , follow with the tama i am not able to keep the tama hole straight to stab.... Frustrating but fun trick!
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 12 November, 2013, 07:04:28
i love this trick :) the way i do it is i have the lighthouse...kind of lift it as if switching to ken spike, and instead grab the ken and twist my wrist to downspike. its much more difficult to do it falling, fast hand as youve described but definitely doable!!
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 12 November, 2013, 08:35:22
We want it on camera!
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 12 November, 2013, 19:36:45
haha ill see what i can do! can i upload straight to the forum somehow? or do i have to youtube it first?
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 12 November, 2013, 20:17:07
i filmed it but my phone and computer dont get along.... lol
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: BKA on 12 November, 2013, 20:20:22
Yeah, you have to upload it somewhere first, Rod.

Sent from my futuristic device
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 13 November, 2013, 03:36:14
my computer just doesnt film very well.. i just moved to a new province! and need to find my camera gear.. lol
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: Cliffdama on 13 November, 2013, 07:27:30
I will give this another try when i'm back home.

If i trow up the tama along with the ken i'm almost able to land it. Is that allowed to?
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 13 November, 2013, 12:08:10
Quote from: RodDama on 13 November, 2013, 03:36:14
my computer just doesnt film very well.. i just moved to a new province! and need to find my camera gear.. lol
Seriously, most smartphones record in more than decent quality. Mine even has 1080p.

You could probably upload it to youtube directly from your phone, or to dropbox and then get it from there in your PC.
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 14 November, 2013, 00:02:52
ill see what i can do.. lol sorry! my computer is pretty old and mac and doesnt like my android phone.. ill figure something out though
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 14 November, 2013, 10:56:19
Have you tried this: http://www.android.com/filetransfer/ (http://www.android.com/filetransfer/)
It works pretty nice for me.
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 15 November, 2013, 19:58:05
ah that worked! thanks for that shalafi! uploaded..converting on vimeo so in 45 mins ill post it!
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 15 November, 2013, 20:33:26
ok here ya go! this is how i usually do it.. not so much alling to fast hand... i grab it the way it is and twist my wrist to get the spike

lighty switch for the BKA forum on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/79514518)
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: shalafi on 16 November, 2013, 12:26:05
Pretty Cool! Thanks for uploading it!
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 17 November, 2013, 10:38:09
no worries!!
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: Tetsuya Takahashi on 29 November, 2013, 00:36:14
About this trick in edits, Kris Bosch does it in the Ken co pro video if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: Fast hand downspike from lighthouse
Post by: RodDama on 29 November, 2013, 01:41:30
its part of a line i do in the india part of my new edits (havent dropped that part yet though :)) i do it lighthouse, to lunar, to stilt! :)