= rotor blade = ufo = sideways jumping stick.
Not diagonal jumping stick. You know who you are. :P
Thank you, Void - they do know who they are! :P
I was wondering what the real terminology for what I called a "UFO" was. Is it really Yoko Haneken? That's good info!
I do try hard to keep it on plane with the ground when I try this trick. I can see how some people do not keep their yoko haneken up to standard. While we're at it, have you ever tried a jumping stick with a twist? I'm not sure if that has a name (it probably does) but it just involves turning your hand like a doorknob while making the motion for a regular haneken.
Hi Joe, yeah, that's it. http://kendama.co.uk/100tricks.html (http://kendama.co.uk/100tricks.html) for a bit more info.
I'm not sure exactly what I made this post for... it's just something I'd noticed in a few videos[nb]No, I can't remember which ones, and without going and watching a squillion videos again, I actually don't know who you are![/nb], that the ufos were noticeably tilted upwards a bit. I guess "don't do that in competition[nb]Or not one that I'm judging, at least![/nb]" is all I'm saying.
I'd never tried the doorknob jumping stick until just now. I thought it would be an ugly trick, but it's actually quite nice. We've established that a trick where the ken is rotating around its long axis[nb](....during a transition?)[/nb] is called a Tornado, so I guess this is a Tornado Jumping Stick. (Although I'd be tempted to think of it as a Corkscrew JS....) Now go and get it on video before someone else does!
Too late, Colin Sander strikes once again. He throws down some tornado candle, tornado jumping stick and tornado lighthouse in Kendama USA edit 8. Kendama Edit #8 - The Kendama USA Pro Models (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3RnWpZSft0#ws)
I've heard people call tornado lunar a barrel roll. Is that just personal terminology, or does that have anything to do with an actual named trick?
I would guess it's a term adopted from skating.
Quote from: MasterKatra42 on 22 August, 2011, 17:53:54
I've heard people call tornado lunar a barrel roll. Is that just personal terminology, or does that have anything to do with an actual named trick?
I've heard this too. The people I play with often call it a lunar kickflip too, seems like every group has slight variations with trick names.
Wanna get real tricky? Try a lunar 3 flip (name basically adapted from skateboarding). Lunar flip plus tornado.
not that i can do it... but i see inverted lunar to lunar as a hardflip... its just how i think of it.
half a kickflip and half a shove it.
my skate terminology may be off here tho...
as fround upon as it may be. skating has some really good analogies for KD tricks
i call it lunar barrel roll, Never heard 'tornado lunar' before this thread lol
Quote from: Harrydh3 on 29 September, 2011, 12:33:35Never heard 'tornado lunar' before this thread lol
...and yet you replied just 3 posts after this one: http://www.kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12.msg110.html#msg110 (http://www.kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12.msg110.html#msg110) :)
I was just practicing the Yoko Haneken tonight and some things were made clear. Sometimes as I'm coming up with my knees to release, I push forward and the stick doesn't come out of the hole. If I put a slight wrist flick with it, the ken exits cleanly. This is really accentuated in doing an outward yoko haneken. If you're having similar trouble, I would suggest adding a little wrist flick in the direction you want the ken to go.
What's the terminology for going the reverse direction? Outward instead of inward.
I suppose it would be Ura Yoko Haneken, or Reverse UFO. (Ura=Reverse)
On a similar note, is there a term for a Jumping Stick where the motion is left-right instead of up-down? Maybe this isn't clear enough - I mean, when the ken leaves the tama and 'cartwheels' before being caught again? Maybe it's just the same, but I tend to see people doing Jumping Stick with the plane of motion being vertical/longitudinal, if that's not stretching the description too far. I often practise this 'Cartwheel Jumping Stick' and find it has a nice aesthetic about it (excuse the kendama neologism of Cartwheel JS).
Any comments?
ive been calling that trick rainbow but i dont know the real terminology so dont quote me on that
If you mean the spin is in the line-of-the shoulders plane (to your side) instead of the through-the-spine-and-the-nose plane (in front of you), then it's still just a Jumping Stick. If you mean something else... Then sorry, but I don't understand. Video?
Thanks Void, no, I mean shoulder-to-shoulder direction Jumping Stick, or, as you pointed out, Jumping Stick Regardless. Have been practising my UFOs today after a wave of panic thinking I too might be a perpetrator of the 'wonky UFO'; found out that remaining totally aware of the wrist and locking out any upwards-downwards movement has actually improved my consistency in landing it (which is still far from high-frequency).
Good point about the up-and-down movement of the hand. The hand's up-and-down movement should only be controlled by the knees, and NOT by the arm. Try this experiment: Do a UFO, but beforehand, place your free hand against your chest, level with the start position of the other hand/kendama. Now, hopefully you'll see that while doing the UFO, the ken and your active hand remain at the same (mid-chest) height as your inactive hand.
I used to regularly miss the UFO by scooping my hand inwards at a slightly different height to the ken until I started to concentrate on this knee-control of the height.[nb]Does this make it sound like I'm now completely solid with a UFO? Ummm... yeah... I am.. Honest. No really, would I lie to you? Well, maybe only a bit...[/nb]
Thanks to Void for my first UFOs that don't so much 'click' as 'crack' like a bullwhip.