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Forum categories => Gear => Topic started by: Paul_S on 07 December, 2014, 15:47:20

Title: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Paul_S on 07 December, 2014, 15:47:20
kendama has been a bit of a godsend in regards to uniting my artwork and skill toys,
hope you enjoy these pics I got today.

Celtic; my first proper go at doing artwork like this. the design is a triquetra folded over the top hemisphere of the tama.
been jamming this as my main since I finished it
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10501724_10152926184619868_3588466838176986082_n.jpg?oh=88e51290203c7924d2d82adc6228f9ee&oe=5504E45D&__gda__=1426929840_4708e17631d4def2b2a7b2163240aeac)

Stud; My technique with a soldering iron got a bit better lol.
The sun around the hole makes tracking a breeze, the stippled texture makes for really nice grip on the ken and on the tama its good for lighthouses too (had to play with it a little bit, otherwise fresh)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1972251_10152926177934868_178934124106973821_n.jpg?oh=af46dc18f468d6b8310b677bacc23b72&oe=551B618B&__gda__=1430702781_10c3223241c81d7f9076e1e44b3d1a4c)

Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: The Void on 07 December, 2014, 17:27:27
Those are cool.
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: M.Wang on 08 December, 2014, 15:04:02
Those look awesome! Are you gonna sell any of these?
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Paul_S on 08 December, 2014, 17:18:26
yeah the second one is up for grabs :)
but I kinda feel like if I ask what I really want for it people will get put off.
So ebay auction might be the fairest option.

what would you pay for something like that btw?
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: the milky oolong on 08 December, 2014, 20:24:23
[user]Hey Paul_S[/user], great work! You might want to inform Marc Wibbels [user]KendamaEurope[/user] on the forum, Marc W. on Facebook or the European Kendama Community, I'm sure he'd be really happy to see how you've transformed his natty!
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: M.Wang on 09 December, 2014, 02:29:12
Quote from: Paul_S on 08 December, 2014, 17:18:26
yeah the second one is up for grabs :)
but I kinda feel like if I ask what I really want for it people will get put off.
So ebay auction might be the fairest option.

what would you pay for something like that btw?
I would probably pay about $40-50. (£25.55-31.94)
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Kev on 09 December, 2014, 08:25:07
These are good!

I've experimented with wood burning myself but not got results I'm happy with yet.

It's nice to see these. This sort of work takes considerable time and skill.

In my view, depending on the quality and detail of the artwork a kendama like this could be worth quite a lot.

The problem you may have is that there is often quite a big difference between what something is worth and what people are willing to pay, but you never know!

My general advice would be don't sell yourself short - you've put time and effort and skill into these so don't underprice them. Sure you can sell them cheap if you want but think about how that affects their perceived value.

Really looking forward to seeing more if these! Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: The Void on 09 December, 2014, 13:42:34
Quote from: Kev on 09 December, 2014, 08:25:07
there is often quite a big difference between what something is worth and what people are willing to pay
I would argue that that is the very definition of what something is worth! At least in monetary terms. However, I recognise the distinction between market value and the hourly rate of the creator. I think you should work out what you want to be paid per hour, minimum, for your time, and price accordingly. As has been said, don't sell yourself short.
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Paul_S on 09 December, 2014, 13:56:35
thanks guys, i generally try to pay myself £10 an hour when doing illustration/graphics work but If I did that for this it would be rediculous lol.

anyhow I put it on ebayyyy: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-dotwork-Pyrography-on-a-Play-Europe-Kendama-/111543603614?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:GB:1123 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-dotwork-Pyrography-on-a-Play-Europe-Kendama-/111543603614?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:GB:1123)

5 day listing, £25 starting bid, free shipping to UK :)
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Kev on 09 December, 2014, 14:05:25
Yes I was talking about the bigger picture as in adding together time spent plus material costs then the unquantifiable amount for your skill and creativity.

Still I guess the true answer is sell it for what you're happy to sell it for.

I hope you get a decent amount that you're happy with.

Let's see more soon too please!

(Just so you know- at £10 an hour you'd be the cheapest graphic designer I've ever encountered!)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: shalafi on 09 December, 2014, 14:43:15
They look really nice. Good work!

I'm not into collecting kendamas, so I won't be bidding for this one. I'd expect you'll get quite some attention from a lot other people that does collect them.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Paul_S on 09 December, 2014, 17:38:17
thanks Kev, I'll be buying myself a soldering iron with interchangable tips for christmas i reckon (borrowed a friends one for these)

and Pffffft Shalafi these is for playing with, not collecting! :p
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: shalafi on 09 December, 2014, 18:53:40
It will be a pity to chip that Kendama. ;-)
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: LarsVegas on 10 December, 2014, 10:22:44
The ken of the first one is awesome. The band fits so nicely into its place. Great work.
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: Paul_S on 16 March, 2015, 23:36:09
bump, second one needs to go! (bills :p)
$45 shipped
Title: Re: Custom pyrography on play europe nattys
Post by: PikWik on 21 March, 2015, 21:04:39
very cool. PLEASE make more of these. with more JKA/BKA brands