Poll
Question:
Do you glue your Kendama tips to prevent wear?
Option 1: I glue all my Kendama tips to prevent wear
Option 2: Only my most played tips get glued
Option 3: I own enough Kendamas that I don't really care about the wear of the tips
Option 4: See no need to glue the tips
Option 5: I will never glue my Kendama tips
Just want to get a feel for where people are on the idea of gluing the tips of their Kendamas to prevent wear on the tip.
Well, I voted "only my most...", but that's not quite the whole story. KendAlex said that gluing the tip when it's brand new equals an extra-hard tip to attack your paint with, which is true. So there's the "play it until it's a little bit blunt, then glue it" option as well.
However, I try to use a soft technique as much as I can, so actually, I do glue my tips new. But then again, I don't glue every tip, sometimes I can't be bothered.
So, er, yeah, ere wasn't an option for all of that!
i cant deal with a nubby spike... makes me crazy! lol so i glue mine and sometimes reshape the spike with sand paper.. or sometimes (extremely carefuly) with a knife. although i have done it with just a knife.. and it looked wonky but worked amazing. I find it brings old beaten up damas back to life!
im with rod...i cant stand a dull spike.
but if i manage to get a dull one i either slap i on my belt sander, or just use sandpaper.
(concrete can work here if you are low on resources)
also...do NOT try a pencil sharpener...
just trust me, i am guilty of this.
I just glued my tip for the fiest time. I didn't know about glueing and reshaping tips so i played with a blunt tip for a while. The one positive thing about a blunt tip is that i learnt to spike much better! Now with a sharp tip its so easy! :D
Quote from: BrandonYoder on 13 March, 2013, 03:00:36
also...do NOT try a pencil sharpener...
just trust me, i am guilty of this.
haha! i have a friend that does this... his damas are all shall we say... custom? haha
I definitely glue the tips on my daily players. Usually more than once. I leave the hardwoods and display kendamas alone though, no reason.
Why glue the tip when you can hit the hole every time? ...:-) but I glue all mine after some minimal wear...
I re-shaped and glued all of the tips on my kendamas a few days ago. I tried 2 different glues with varying results.
The first glue I used wast Loctite Super Glue with a brush applicator.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/313s-jcJOYL._SL500_SS500_.jpg)
This stuff was rubbish. It chipped away after minutes of play, and my tips were blunted by the end of the day.
The second glue I used was Gorilla Super Glue.
(http://static.pepboys.com/images/productImages/59816100/GorillaSuperGlue-tube.jpg)
This stuff is amazing. The slightly rubberized formula is extremely impact resistant. No chips or marks anywhere on my tips. This glue seeped in nicely and dried very clear. I definitely recommend this brand to anyone who wants to preserve their spikes.
I used some cheap stuff I found at a truck stop one night at work when I needed it to fix something in my truck. The lid was bonded on so I cut open the side and rolled the spike around in it. Worked pretty well but the glue is done now. I'll have to try Gorilla super glue on the next one.
Yes, I glue every one of my kendama tips. Why not keep the spikes prestine? (Or, at least as close to that as possible.)
I also use the Gorilla Super Glue that James recommended, and I concur. It dries clear as he said, is slick to the feel, sounds good and I can't believe what I've put some of them through without damage. I do keep an eye on the glue, however, and if I notice it's getting banged up, add another very thin layer just to be safe.
I wonder how well shellac might work. Anyone try it?
Gorilla glue fursure
I think I've only glued the tips of 2 kendamas I've ever owned - one was made of genuine mahogany, so I glued it simply because it is a lighter/softer wood. The other was just to experiment, since I'd never glued one before.
I think its kind of fun beating your average kendama to pieces. As you get better you'll find your spike wears down less, since you can play more softly and accurately. Just don't use kendamas you want to keep in good shape for aggressive tricks!
Glue sesh!
(http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/503ca32c8cfa11e3b919128369f6fad9_8.jpg)
At this time I only have two kendamas and have glued both. One I used a number of times before gluing and it shows. Definitely going to continue the practice.
Can someone explain why you glue the tips? Does it make that much of a difference whether the tip is sharp or dull? To me it seems that you have to be pretty exact when spiking regardless of the condition of the tip?
I would also love to see some photos of what you guys consider a good tip, to help us newbs out. As somebody pointed out, it seems that you wouldn't want to keep the tip quite as sharp as it comes straight out of the box since it might hurt the paint on the tama?
See http://www.kendama.co.uk/setup.html (http://www.kendama.co.uk/setup.html)
Yeah... Still no explanation on why a blunt tip is a bad thing though ;P
Ah, right. Well, simply, it's harder to get it in the hole - greater precision required. Plus, it's ugly.
Did it when I first started playing, done it with one kendama.
But stopped with it, I rather play the dama as it comes.
Quote from: mlarinen on 22 October, 2014, 00:05:20...it seems that you wouldn't want to keep the tip quite as sharp as it comes straight out of the box since it might hurt the paint on the tama?
"Spike soft, catch low." Good technique makes kendamas last longer.
Quote"Spike soft, catch low." Good technique makes kendamas last longer.
Though I agree with the sense of this first one, I think it has its stylistic limits. Spiking hard has a different aesthetic to a pivoting, gentle slipping onto the spike style, and both are in my opinion totally legitimate techniques. If one practices a really powerful spike with enough concentration, it's surely only the tops of the cups that really take on any damage. Catching low, while also a stylistic thing, is so sensible it might as well be a maxim.
I glue most of my tips when they're slightly blunt. A couple of hours of play usually does it for me.
Sharp and hard tips kill the paint much faster.
I have been hunting around for the right glue for tipping, but i'm yet to find one.
Been using Selley's medium viscosity 4-pack tubes (ones that look like mini toothpaste tubs) for a bit, but once i open a tube, it's only good for one use (hardens up after some days), then i tried generic low viscosity ones. They can be used longer, but don't last on the spike as long as Selley's.
To [user]AlexSmith[/user], would you happen to know what glue Colin uses? I received a kendama from him sometime back and that stuff lasts really, really long.
Do you folks apply super glue to the spike of the Kendama? Why or why not? Thanks
I do, I have tried both doing it and not doing it, and prefer it. It helps preserve the life of the spike tip, stops it dulling or folding slightly with play
Hi
@morgothaod ,
Welcome to the forum.
There was an old thread/poll on the same subject, so we have merged the topics. Have a read through (http://kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,920.0.html) for some opinions. That said, it hadn't been posted in for a few years, anyone still reading... Chime in with your thoughts/vote in the poll.
How long do the kendama tips last before you need to buy a new kendama?
Quote from: morgothaod on 09 March, 2017, 04:32:47
How long do the kendama tips last before you need to buy a new kendama?
Hi morgothaod,
Technically you wouldn't need to buy a new kendama if the spike dulls. I did find not gluing, that it meant the tama slipped off more easily doing certain things once the spike was pretty battered. I just sanded it back to shape and glued it and it was fine. You may have some issues if you wanted to do gradings if there is excessive wear, otherwise no real need to buy a new one, unless you just want to try something different.
Quote from: johndmc on 09 March, 2017, 07:42:13
Hi morgothaod,
Technically you wouldn't need to buy a new kendama if the spike dulls. I did find not gluing, that it meant the tama slipped off more easily doing certain things once the spike was pretty battered. I just sanded it back to shape and glued it and it was fine. You may have some issues if you wanted to do gradings if there is excessive wear, otherwise no real need to buy a new one, unless you just want to try something different.
Oh ok, I just thought over time the the tip would get shorter from sanding it and eventually you would have to replace the Kendama. I'm thinking about buying one (I enjoy yo-yoing and I think Kendama looks fun) and I was unsure if I should buy a pricier wooden Kendama. A site recommended the plastic Catchy Air for a beginner because it requires no maintenance but I read some reviews about it falling apart despite the claim that it is supposed to be really durable.
Hi
@morgothaod ,
Don't go for a plastic. Wooden kendamas are so much better. I'd recommend a Royal (but I'm really biased :) ), but have a look at http://kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/board,13.0.html for various recommendations.
Cheers
In my opinion, I feel like when you glue the spike on a brand new kendama it ruins the tama especially for spike tricks.
I tend to sand the spike a little once its worn in and well rounded instead of it being super sharp. Slay on!
What grit sandpaper do you use?
A fine one generally, unless it's really battered and you need to take a lot off.
Does anyone here glue there spikes to strengthen them alot of dispute on forums but I want your ideas
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Yes, there is another thread on the subject, including a poll.
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Quote from: shalafi on 03 September, 2017, 16:52:14
Yes, there is another thread on the subject, including a poll.
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Will delete and look on that one didn't realise I still don't understand the forum haha
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No worries, I'd merge the threads if I were on my computer, or other admin would.
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@Unichuck1 No worries. We've now merged the threads (scroll back to read older comments). The actual Poll doesn't show up within Tapatalk, so you'll have to view in a browser to see the results.
You might find this thread useful, about forums generally: http://kendama.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2984.0.html
Cheers!
Glued a few kendamas when first started to play
then did my own mods onto the tips with plastic tips
nowadays since using Aura kendama i dont bother to glue anything -