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Title: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: Dimensions on 20 March, 2013, 17:39:44
So I thought to myself the other day that there is nearly an infinite amount if around tricks sou have you made your own up (and landed it)

Here's one I did "around the UK" (I think that name hasn't been taken)
Cross piece> big cup> spike> base cup> little cup> spike
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: br4d24 on 20 March, 2013, 18:11:35
I like to think I thought up the horizontal earth turn in pen grip, but I believe there are others who have already done this before me. I may be the first to get it on film though :)

I also like to do a loop around my finger with the tama and then spike it like a swinging spike. Or pen grip swinging spike. Im sure they have been done before but i havent seen those tricks in edits recently (that i can recall)
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: The Void on 20 March, 2013, 20:36:29
Every trick was made up by someone!
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: Dimensions on 21 March, 2013, 08:08:29
I like to think I thought up the horizontal earth turn in pen grip, but I believe there are others who have already done this before me. I may be the first to get it on film though :)

I also like to do a loop around my finger with the tama and then spike it like a swinging spike. Or pen grip swinging spike. Im sure they have been done before but i havent seen those tricks in edits recently (that i can recall)
I said AROUND TRICKS not any trick
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: JamesFM on 21 March, 2013, 08:12:47
I might have.. but I haven't thought of a name for it.

In Sara Grip I go: Big Cup, Small Cup, Big Cup, Bottom Cup, Big Cup, Spike.
Title: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: br4d24 on 21 March, 2013, 09:48:31
Haha derp! Read that wrong!

I always seem to go

Big
Sm
Big
Sm
Base
Spike
Earthturn

Around tricks really are just trick sequences :/ weird why they are called tricks like they stand alone. Its like saying each word is a letter
Title: Re: Has anyone made up their own around trick (and landed)
Post by: The Void on 21 March, 2013, 11:21:17
I said AROUND TRICKS not any trick
So you did. I apologise for being a lazy reader. In that case, search the forum for "Around Spain", "Around Tunbridge Wells" and "Around Denmark". There are probably others.

I'm pretty sure most players have thought about (or maybe have) creating their[1] own Around trick. The question is whether it catches on with other people. What's the magic key for that to happen? It could be that it's a difficult challenge (the second two examples above), or has been featured in a competition tricklist. Others tend to fall by the wayside, it seems.

Meanwhile... every Around Trick was made up by someone!  ;)
 1. FYI "Their" indicates the possessive. "There" indicates a place.
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: the milky oolong on 21 March, 2013, 14:58:34
Around the Pitfall (a Falling Down-Around thing I like to practise, though I think of it more like a run than an Around):

Flip Lighthouse>Falling Down (spike falling towards you)>Lighthouse>Falling Down (spike falling away from you)>Lighthouse>Falling... (sweeping spike left)>Lighthouse>Falling... (sweeping spike right)>Jumping Stick

(Each Lighthouse is of course a half-flip and not a reset. The sweeping catches are one outside-in, one inside to out, I try to catch them when the ken is pretty much horizontal, Rotor Blade fashion.)

As Void seems to be suggesting, it appears that Around tricks get remembered because their flow is memorable/aesthetically pleasing/challenging/tells somehow a story or uses a particular quirk of kendama (Around the Triangle is one I often see; not too difficult but very enjoyable and stylish). I think it's a good sign that players are enthusiastic about 'writing' an Around - it's all about letting your creativity show and experimenting, and even if you do make something infuriatingly difficult, you're always learning to control unusual transitions and building up trick-by-trick consistency.
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: The Void on 21 March, 2013, 15:16:55
Around the Pitfall (a Falling Down-Around thing I like to practise, though I think of it more like a run than an Around):
Flip Lighthouse
There's that all-too-ambiguous word "flip" again. Do you mean Lighthouse Somersault, or do you mean Swing To Lighthouse (aka 1-Turn Lighthouse)? I've just been trying the latter...
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>Falling Down (spike falling towards you)>Lighthouse>Falling Down (spike falling away from you)>Lighthouse>Falling... (sweeping spike left)>Lighthouse>Falling... (sweeping spike right)>Jumping Stick
(Each Lighthouse is of course a half-flip and not a reset. The sweeping catches are one outside-in, one inside to out, I try to catch them when the ken is pretty much horizontal, Rotor Blade fashion.)
...spent 10 minutes on this, and it's the Falling Away that kills me. Got it a couple of times, only to then mess up on an easier move afterwards. I assume you've done it, Milky? Nice challenge.
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: the milky oolong on 21 March, 2013, 18:09:53
Ok, once again, with (hopefully) the correct terminology:

1 Turn Lighthouse (Swing to Lighthouse)
Falling Down (in)
Build the Lighthouse
Falling Down (away, out)
Build the Lighthouse
Falling Down (to the left: for the right-handed, an inside-to-out, Alex Ruisch-style catch)
Build the Lighthouse.     [<---Edited this in, as per your original description. - BKA]
Falling Down (to the right, Rotor Blade style catch)
Jumping Stick

I have managed it to the final trick and have fumbled the Jumping Stick pathetically (swish, clatter, groan), and yes, the Falling Down away from you is as just as awful and unnatural-feeling as a Jumping Stick in the forward direction. I love nailing the outward Falling Down though (in my case the one to the right), for a moment you feel like a certain Dutch Master, if you follow me...
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: HansNickmans on 22 March, 2013, 08:22:47
There are two players from our group that came up with their own combo:

big cup --> half whirlwind to small cup --> base cup --> fast hand aeroplane
It's in this video by Marieke: kendama Marieke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHJ0l5EKpmg#ws)
(the second trick after the tama comes loose)
I was thinking about calling it Around Belgium, since they're always doing that one. I've landed it a couple of times, but they're far more consistent.

Title: Re: Has anyone made up their own around trick (and landed)
Post by: The Void on 22 March, 2013, 15:29:57
1 Turn Lighthouse (Swing to Lighthouse)
Falling Down (in)
Build the Lighthouse
Falling Down (away, out)
Build the Lighthouse
Falling Down (to the left: for the right-handed, an inside-to-out, Alex Ruisch-style catch)
Build the Lighthouse.     [<---Edited this in, as per your original description. - BKA]
Falling Down (to the right, Rotor Blade style catch)
Jumping Stick

I have managed it to the final trick and have fumbled the Jumping Stick pathetically (swish, clatter, groan), and yes, the Falling Down away from you is as just as awful and unnatural-feeling as a Jumping Stick in the forward direction.
[noembed]Around The Pitfall (http://juggling.tv/12961?pin=7955)[/noembed] by me.
Title: Re: Has anyone made up there own around trick (and landed)
Post by: the milky oolong on 22 March, 2013, 16:09:41
I am greatly honoured, and I feel for you, Void! What is it about that damn JS!
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